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When is the next Qwen model coming out?

No date is confirmed. Polymarket prices Next Qwen Flash (3.9 or later) at 97% by Dec 31. The latest Qwen release was Qwen 3.8 Flash on Aug 26, 2026.

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Every unreleased Qwen model on the board, swept every 60 seconds. Odds are live Polymarket prices where a market exists: sentiment, not a promise.

• Qwen 3.9 Flash97% by Dec 31 · market: Next Qwen Flash (3.9 or later)
  No date · Qwen 3.8 Flash shipped Aug 26; Polymarket runs a 'next Qwen Flash (3.9+)' market · Nov 4: 70 days since Qwen 3.8 Flash; no qwen3.9-flash id in OpenRouter's catalog; Polymarket's 'next Qwen Flash (3.9+)' market last traded at 97% by Dec 31 · Nov 8: 74 days since Qwen 3.8 Flash; Alibaba has never announced a Qwen 3.9 Flash, and it billed Qwen3.8-Flash itself as 'an early preview of the Qwen4 architecture' (Aug 26); no qwen3.9-flash id is on OpenRouter, models.dev or Qwen's Hugging Face page, and Qwen Chat's model list is Qwen3.7-Plus, Qwen3.8-Max and Qwen3.8-Omni-Flash (read 01:05 UTC)
• Qwen 3.9 Max78% by Nov 20 · 95% by Dec 31 · market: Next Qwen Max (3.9 or later)
  No date · Qwen 3.8 Max shipped Aug 1; Polymarket runs a 'next Qwen Max (3.9+)' market, and Alibaba says Qwen 4 is in training · Nov 4: 95 days since Qwen 3.8 Max; the newest Max ids on OpenRouter are the 3.8 Max 0902 snapshot (Sep 3) and the higher-throughput 3.8 Max Prime (Sep 23), and none is a 3.9; Polymarket's 'next Qwen Max (3.9+)' market, which a Qwen 4 Max would also settle, last traded at 94% by Dec 31 · Nov 8: 99 days since Qwen 3.8 Max, and Alibaba has never announced a Qwen 3.9; its own posts point to Qwen 4 as the next generation (on Aug 26 it billed Qwen3.8-Flash as 'an early preview of the Qwen4 architecture', and its Nov 6 teaser, 'The becoming begins.', names no model); no qwen3.9 id is on OpenRouter, models.dev or Qwen's Hugging Face page, and Qwen Chat's model list is Qwen3.7-Plus, Qwen3.8-Max and Qwen3.8-Omni-Flash (read 01:05 UTC)
• Qwen 4 27B
  Not announced by Alibaba · Nov 6: after Qwen's 'The becoming begins' teaser, @Mr_Salio ('Qwen4-27B is dropping today') and TestingCatalog expect an open-weight Qwen4-27B first, next to Max, Plus and Flash (unconfirmed) · the current open 27B is Qwen3.8-27B (Hugging Face, Aug 13) · no qwen4 id on Hugging Face, OpenRouter or models.dev at 20:56 UTC Nov 6
• Qwen 4 Flash
  Not announced by Alibaba · Nov 6: TestingCatalog expects Qwen4-Flash in the Qwen 4 family after Qwen's 'The becoming begins' teaser (unconfirmed) · Qwen 3.8 Flash shipped Aug 26 at $0.15 / $0.47 per 1M · a Qwen 4 Flash would also settle Polymarket's 'next Qwen Flash (3.9+)' market
• Qwen 4 Max
  No date · Nov 10: the Nov 2-8 window that the CTO's 'next week' implied has now PASSED with nothing shipped — Alibaba has still announced no Qwen 4 and no date, and our sweep's cumulative ledger of 639 catalog ids has never once carried a qwen4 id · Nov 10: Qwen Chat's own front-end code (build 0.3.40 on Alibaba's CDN, served by chat.qwen.ai, read 19:52 UTC) makes 'qwen4.0-max-preview' the default model for agent mode in place of qwen3.8-max (build 0.3.39) and adds an 'agent_qwen4' announcement pop-up ('Try in Chat'); flagged by @LuminaBench (19:22 UTC) · chat.qwen.ai's public models list still tops out at qwen3.8-max and OpenRouter has no Qwen 4 id; this hunt fires on qwen4.0-max-preview

  Earlier reports (10)

  Alibaba says Qwen 4 is in training (Apsara, Sep 22) · Oct 22: @LuminaBench and @Mr_Salio say Qwen 4 is being tested on LMArena under the codename 'Kalmia', possibly in more than one version (unconfirmed; Alibaba has said nothing, and no Qwen 4 id is in OpenRouter or models.dev) · Oct 26 09:34 UTC: @Mr_Salio posts a screenshot of a code list naming 'qwen4-exp' next to 'qwen3.8-flash-next', without saying where it comes from, and expects Qwen 4 this week or next (unconfirmed; our hunt fires on qwen4-exp) · Oct 27 10:16 UTC: @Mr_Salio reports another Qwen 4 checkpoint on LMArena, codenamed 'Kerria' (unconfirmed) · Oct 29: at Alibaba Cloud's first international Apsara Conference in Amsterdam (the event is confirmed by Alibaba Cloud's own posts), attendee @jtdavies quotes Alibaba Cloud CTO Feifei Li on stage: 'Qwen4 next week' (08:57 UTC), then posts 'Qwen4, coming soon' from a talk by Qwen research scientist Xudong Guo (09:20 UTC); @scaling01, @Mr_Salio and @LuminaBench relayed it · one attendee's account, and Alibaba's own posts from the event so far cover the new Netherlands cloud region, not Qwen 4; no Qwen 4 id in OpenRouter or models.dev (read 11:00 UTC) · Oct 28: Alibaba's open-source Qwen Code repo merges a rule sizing every qwen4 id at 1M tokens as a 'forward default', with tests naming qwen4, qwen4-max, qwen4-plus and qwen4-coder-plus (PR #15762, read directly; the 1M is the tool's default, not a published spec), and a qwen4-omni-120b-think id has sat in its test fixtures since Sep 16; first flagged by @Mr_Salio · still no Qwen 4 id in OpenRouter or models.dev (read 12:00 UTC) · Oct 31 13:43 UTC: @Mr_Salio reads the 'qwen-latest-series-invite' ids in Qwen Code as invite-only Qwen 4 testing ahead of a public release next week (unconfirmed). What the repo shows: invite-only qwen-latest-series-invite-* aliases sized at 1M since Oct 28 (PR #15758, example id 'qwen-latest-series-invite-202610-m4') and grouped with qwen4* for reasoning effort on Oct 31 (PR #15987), read directly; the alias names no generation, and third-party wrappers' docs map earlier invite ids of this form (beta-v16, beta-v24) to Qwen3.7 previews · Nov 4: halfway through the Nov 2-8 window that 'next week' implies, no qwen4 id is on Hugging Face (Qwen's newest repo is Qwen-Image-2.1-Turbo, Oct 9), OpenRouter or models.dev, and Qwen Code has merged no new qwen4 change since Oct 31; Polymarket's 'next Qwen Max (3.9+)' market, which a Qwen 4 Max would settle, last traded at 94% by Dec 31 · Nov 6 12:00 UTC: @Alibaba_Qwen posts a teaser, 'The becoming begins.', with an image of a flock of birds over the sea and the Zhuangzi line 北冥有鱼 其名为_ (the fish Kun that becomes the bird Peng, its name left blank); the post and image name no model and no date, and a widely shared 'Qwen 4' graphic is not from Alibaba's post · @Mr_Salio ('Qwen4-27B is dropping today'), @LuminaBench and TestingCatalog read it as Qwen 4, with Max, Plus, Flash and an open-weight 27B expected and the 27B first (unconfirmed) · at 20:56 UTC no qwen4 id is on OpenRouter, models.dev, Qwen's Hugging Face page or chat.qwen.ai (top model there: Qwen3.8-Max), and Qwen Code has merged no qwen4 change since Oct 31 · the RSI result Alibaba published (Sep 22) is on Qwen3.8-Max (33 automated cycles, Artificial Analysis score 40 to 45); the release does not say how Qwen 4 uses RSI · the hunt is split Nov 6: qwen4 Flash and 27B ids go to their own rows, and all three rows are headline, so a Qwen 4 launch reaches more than the all-models list · Nov 8: qwen4 Plus ids get their own headline row too, and qwen4 Coder, VL, Omni and small-size ids no longer fire this Max hunt
• Qwen 4 Plus
  Not announced by Alibaba · Nov 6: TestingCatalog expects Qwen4-Plus in the Qwen 4 family next to Max, Flash and an open-weight 27B, after Qwen's 'The becoming begins' teaser (unconfirmed) · Plus has been Qwen's middle tier, sold through the API; Qwen Chat's current one is Qwen3.7-Plus (its model list, read Nov 8) · split from the Qwen 4 Max hunt on Nov 8, so a qwen4-plus listing alerts as Qwen 4 Plus, not as Qwen 4 Max

Latest Qwen releases

• Qwen 3.8 FlashAug 26, 2026
• Wan 3.0Aug 24, 2026
• Qwen 3.8 MaxAug 1, 2026

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